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Sony Granted Access to the IP Address of Anyone That Visited Geohot.com

Sony Granted Access to the IP Address of Anyone That Visited Geohot.com

Posted March 5, 2011 at 12:19pm by iClarified
A judge has ordered Geohot's host to provide Sony with the IP addresses of everyone who visited Geohot.com.

Sony has also won a subpoena to retrieve Geohot's Twitter history, the personal information of anyone who visited or commented on Geohot's blog and anyone who access Geohot's private video on YouTube.

Sony is suing Geohot for jailbreaking the PS3 in a case which will set precedence for customer rights in the future.


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a. The Bluehost Subpoena
This subpoena to Bluehost, the content server for Mr. Hotz's website at , seeks the identity of those who have downloaded the circumvention devices from Mr. Hotz's website. SCEA has a good faith basis to obtain this information because it is relevant to whether the Court has jurisdiction over Mr. Hotz. SCEA needs to determine how rampant the access to and use of these circumvention devices has been in California in order to rebut Mr. Hotz's suggestion that his illicit conduct was not aimed at the forum state. Not only is this information relevant to SCEA's opposition to the Motion to Dismiss, but it also relates to a "core claim" insofar as the trafficking provisions of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act ("DMCA") – which SCEA alleges Mr. Hotz has violated – pertain directly to evidence of a defendant's distribution of a circumvention device to other persons. Finally, the identity of those who have downloaded the circumvention devices from cannot be discovered from any entity except the site's web content host, Bluehost.

b. The Twitter Subpoena
This subpoena seeks "Tweets" published by Mr. Hotz, many of which SCEA believes relate directly to his hacking of the PS3 System.5 SCEA has a good faith basis to obtain this information because it is relevant to whether the Court has jurisdiction over Mr. Hotz. SCEA seeks to determine whether Mr. Hotz was directing any of his Tweets regarding his hacking of the PS3 System at persons residing in California, and to what extent Mr. Hotz used Twitter to discuss the hacking efforts targeted in this lawsuit. Further, as Mr. Hotz has attempted to shirk responsibility for some of these Tweets because SCEA could not produce original copies of the Tweets posted under Mr. Hotz's account, it is particularly important at this phase of jurisdictional discovery that SCEA be able to access this material. Again, not only does this information relate directly to SCEA's opposition to the Motion to Dismiss, but it relates to a "core claim" insofar as the information sought will reveal important facts about Mr. Hotz's hacking efforts. Finally, SCEA does not believe these Tweets can be discovered from any entity other than Twitter itself. Importantly, this information is not available to SCEA through any other avenue or medium.


c. The Google Blogspot Subpoena
This subpoena seeks to discover information relating to a specific Blogspot account that is owned by Mr. Hotz, , and information regarding persons who also posted content to that website in the form of blog comments. SCEA has a good faith basis to obtain this information because it is relevant to whether the Court has jurisdiction over Mr. Hotz. SCEA seeks to determine whether Mr. Hotz discussed his hacking of the PS3 System with persons in California through his blog. Again, not only does this information relate directly to SCEA's opposition to the Motion to Dismiss, but it relates to a "core claim" insofar as the information sought will reveal important facts about Mr. Hotz's hacking efforts. Finally, information regarding persons who posted content at cannot be discovered from any entity except Google.

d. The YouTube Subpoena
This subpoena seeks to discover information regarding all persons who currently have access to a "private video" uploaded by Mr. Hotz demonstrating his use of the circumvention devices on the PS3 System, and those who posted comments in response to the video. Mr. Hotz posted the video for public viewing on January 7, 2011. Since that time, the video became "private." Pursuant to the TRO entered on January 27, 2011 (and the subsequent Preliminary Injunction), Mr. Hotz is prohibited from publishing or posting any circumvention devices or instructions on how to use them, and cannot assist, facilitate or encourage others to engage in the unlawful activity enjoined by the Court. (See Docket Nos. 50 and 87). Therefore, SCEA must be able to discover what persons, if any, are still able to access the "private" video after the TRO went into effect in order to ascertain whether Mr. Hotz continues to share this "private" video regarding his hacking of the PS3 System with persons in California and determine whether Mr. Hotz has violated the TRO and Preliminary Injunction.6 SCEA has a good faith basis to obtain this information because it is relevant to whether the Court has jurisdiction over Mr. Hotz. Again, not only does this information relate directly to SCEA's opposition to Mr. Hotz's Motion to Dismiss, but it relates to a "core claim" insofar as the information sought will reveal important facts about the intent behind Mr. Hotz's hacking efforts and whether Mr. Hotz is in violation of the TRO by continuing to offer the video. Finally, information regarding persons who have access to the "private" video that Mr. Hotz uploaded cannot be discovered from any entity except YouTube.7
The EFF also challenges the YouTube subpoena under the Video Protection Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. § 2710 ("the VPPA") and the Stored Communications Act, 18 U.S.C. § 2701 et seq. ("the SCA"). Contrary to the EFF's assertions, neither the VPPA nor the SCA prohibit the issuance of the third party subpoena to YouTube. The VPPA does not mandate a per se prohibition on disclosure of "personally identifiable information" as the EFF implies. In fact, nothing in the YouTube subpoena prevents YouTube from providing notice of this action to user, nor does the subpoena deprive users of the opportunity to "appear and contest the claim" as required under the VPPA. See 18 U.S.C. § 2710(b)(2)(F). To the extent that the VPPA requires SCEA to provide notice to users directly, SCEA is unable to do so until the subpoena issues as it does not presently know the identity of these users. Thus, the YouTube subpoena does not violate the VPPA. Nor does the YouTube subpoena violate the SCA. Nothing in the YouTube subpoena prevents YouTube from first obtaining the "lawful consent of the...subscriber..." for disclosure of information regarding persons who have access to the "private video" that Mr. Hotz uploaded on YouTube before providing such information in response to the subpoena. See 18 U.S.C. § 2702(b)(3).
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Virtual-Oz
Virtual-Oz - March 6, 2011 at 11:46pm
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Sony2011/petition.html please sign this petition to beat Sony!
AbP
AbP - March 6, 2011 at 8:32am
I will visit the site n YouTube as much as possible from today. Sony *********** *****
John
John - March 6, 2011 at 7:55am
If you want security, then just don't hack your stuff. Your option is not everyone's option, i want to hack my gadgets, i have the right to mod and improve the way I want, as long as I PAID FOR AND BELONGS TO ME AND ME ONLY! And if I want to share my hacks with my friends, I ALSO HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS IN THE WORLD. Dont forget, all this is about big rich corporations having total control over your life.
999
999 - March 7, 2011 at 6:30am
since when is voiding a warranty a crime? it's something you do at your own risk. also, Sony manufactures CD/DVD burners...you think people might be using these for pirating music/software? So wouldn't this make Sony somewhat liable for contributing to illegal activity? But I guess they're making money off of it so it's all good, right?
Hiren
Hiren - March 7, 2011 at 9:47am
Voiding the warranty is my option if i want to on my device that i paid for....its not sony's business what i do with my device after i have already paid them for something they produced....if i want to make my device better by hacking it so I'll do so why is sony making a huge deal out of nothing... I donated to geo hotz donations and will continue to do so as long as Sony doesn't lose!!! Oh and i don't even own a PS3
ricekake
ricekake - March 7, 2011 at 1:20pm
Yeah, but ford doesnt sue you if you modify their cars and void the warranty. I dont even own a PS3, xbox all the way. This is sad
Joe Cole
Joe Cole - March 6, 2011 at 12:11am
Where do we sign-up, show-up, etc to demonstrate our support for George Hotz.
Avramar
Avramar - March 6, 2011 at 1:31am
It is not about using any of this info, it is about proving how powerfull they are. JUST DONT BUY SONY CRAPPY DEVICES
Joe Cole
Joe Cole - March 6, 2011 at 1:50am
@Avramar, the only piece of Sony crap I have is an outdated Vaio notebook. After this bullshit fiasco against Geohot, I doubt if I'd ever invest in a Sony device let alone a PS3 for my kids. iPad 2 or Nintendo is more like it.
Tjp
Tjp - March 6, 2011 at 12:05am
Also, sign here. http://www.PetitionOnline.com/Sony2011/petition.html I added the comment on mine stating my boycott period. Spread the petition to other social sites.
Overland04
Overland04 - March 6, 2011 at 12:03am
What the hell is Sony going to do with 45,000,000 IP Addresses? Have fun with that...
Tjp
Tjp - March 6, 2011 at 12:00am
Everyone should go to geohot.com ... I suggest going to the main page, then making up a link that includes a protest against sony. Let the log chewing dogs eat that dogfood. Tjp - I defer any purchase from Sony or their affiliated companies for 2 months for every month this goes on.
Just Wondering
Just Wondering - March 5, 2011 at 9:39pm
...here's something for everyone to ponder...if Geohotz and other hackers can provide hack tools which you can download from their host servers so everyone can jailbreak their iPhone, PS3, etc, etc, etc...would you be still as supportive of them knowing that they have the power to hack into your devices without you knowing it?...I'm just saying...
LarryFlynt
LarryFlynt - March 5, 2011 at 10:42pm
"would you be still as supportive of them knowing that they have the power to hack into your devices without you knowing it?" Ahhhh, you mean like what Sony themselves did with their rootkit on CDs not so long ago? You tell me Just Wondering, based on past history and current actions, who would *you* trust? I may not be able to give you an answer on who I would trust, but I sure as hell can tell you who I *wouldn't*... ...it's the group who is wanting IP addresses of EVERYBODY who may have visited a video link on YouTube, who want PayPal to tell them who someone *may* have gotten a couple of bucks from, who want to inspect every file on your computer even though it may have nothing whatsoever to do with whatever legal action may be ongoing. You'd better hope that Sony loses this case, and has to pay out tens of millions of dollars because otherwise, it's going to set up a precedent where any company or government agency will be able to demand to go though your personal data without warning, and all you'll be able to do is bend over and hope they brought the KY jelly.
ikkviper
ikkviper - March 5, 2011 at 9:32pm
This literally looks like Sony is just trying to find someone anyone in California that used the info Geohot posted to make a case for the trail being held in that state other than somewhere else. Right guys?
eqwr
eqwr - March 5, 2011 at 6:06pm
let's ban Sony it was crappy company anyway
Leandro Fonseca
Leandro Fonseca - March 5, 2011 at 5:46pm
Not a screw from Sony in my house anymore. They should go home and do some more R&D, because Apple will one day get interested into the games console market, and then Sony will be the one taking the big hit. Go find something more useful to do Sony.
ip
ip - March 5, 2011 at 5:21pm
Sony shave it up your IP
izit
izit - March 5, 2011 at 4:47pm
I was gonna get the new xperia play by sony, but now... nope
WarEnd
WarEnd - March 5, 2011 at 2:24pm
i hope at the end of all this we dont have to find a way to jailbreak GeoHotz
Rui Fonseca
Rui Fonseca - March 5, 2011 at 3:15pm
LLOOLLL, nice one..
Don_Tom
Don_Tom - March 5, 2011 at 2:15pm
Why doesn´t everybody send an email to Sony saying: "Yes, I visited geohots web and WTF will you do now"?
iblakejames
iblakejames - March 5, 2011 at 4:44pm
why dont you send one!
Adobo
Adobo - March 5, 2011 at 2:06pm
Dear Sony, I will no longer buy any of your products. Wait! i haven't bought Sony products for 10yrs.
wittybob
wittybob - March 5, 2011 at 1:48pm
Why doesn't everybody go to an anomyous proxy like hidemyass.com, and log in to geohot.com now? Give them a bigger list to work with !
Me
Me - March 5, 2011 at 1:00pm
wow- that judge must be on the take from Sony. What a huge violation of personal privacy!
zwang
zwang - March 5, 2011 at 12:43pm
This is really sad news... seems like GeoHot is getting cornered. But I still feel, in the end, Geohot will win. As he said in his interview, Sony is doing this only to make sure that jailbreakers are afraid to mess with their system, in future.
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